I keep my faith pretty private and within my heart. Coffee with Jesus in the morning. Without the coffee in the evening. Have never believed in proselytizing although there are many who believe we should spread the word. It bugs me as does organized religion. Though I suspect if religion wasn't organized a lot less people would know about God and faith. God helps those who help themselves? Yes. Never give up on God and never give up on yourself. Your father loved you, Shari. He was excited about something and wanted to introduce it to someone he loved. But loved you enough to realize you were very strong already. That's all a father can hope for with his children - that they be strong, and happy. There are no atheists in foxholes and sooner or later, most of us realize that on our own.
Yep, he sure did. AND, he’d said to me several times (as a young woman), “I respect and admire the woman you’ve become.” I didn‘t need or crave this from my dad at that point in my evolution. I’d already reached a growth and healing point within myself, that wasn’t dependent on a parent’s acceptance or love~ but it felt rather lovely to get the confirmation. :~)
I mean, how many of us EVER get this from a parent during the course of our life?!
I gave got this twice from my dad as well - “I am proud of you” he wrote on my birthday cards this year and the previous year. It felt so utterly sweet, esp. having in mind the turbulent journey we have shared for the last 47 years. PS. I like the way you worded this, Shari - scapegoating Christ. This is so spot on! Thank you.
Absolutely! My dad has actually always supported me. He's the one who boosted my self-esteem in all ways possible. It's just his own issues (and those of my mom) that had a negative effect on us kids as we grew up. However, there was always my dad's actual verbalizing of how intelligent and competent me and my brother were - that made us who we are today, for the most part.
The fact that somehow life was created on a barren planet is a mystery. It does seem to be the result of God's work. We have evolved from bacteria to self conscious human beings. Now that is truly remarkable.
“I couldn’t share any sort of life experience with my dad (like the joy I always felt while perusing hardware stores) without him seizing what he saw as an opportunity to preach about Christ. Every time he did this to me, I felt distanced from him.“
This is due to a vibrational mismatch. Your father was infected by Christian insanity. Christians have convinced themselves that Jesus was divine, resulting in false idolatry. Comically, the son OF God is not God; and yet, they act as if he is. This tactic works sufficiently like a flickering lamp light. The connection is weak, but it’s analogous. You’ll get some light - and that’s why many Christians live decent lives.
The stronger connection is in ditching Jesus worship and instead focusing on God. What the Christians don’t realize is that by pretending some dork was more than human, they are doubting God. They think God is so powerless that a man had to be sent to Earth to die for our “sins”. No. There are no sins.
Think of it. Jesus thought he was divine (Cluster A Schizotypal) and willingly walked a bloody cross up a hill to his death while his mother cried nearby (Cluster A Schizoid). He didn’t even put up a fight. Fact is, if you’re at the point where you’re calling yourself a special human worthy of being a cult leader at the immature age of 33, refusing to put up a fight for your life, lacking compassion for your own mom, well, you’re beyond delusional.
Yes, Jesus was severely mentally ill - maybe because he didn’t have a father. Of course, all people are sons & daughters of God; and smart, healthy people don’t wear a crucifix of some diseased dude from 2,000 years ago. Healthy people can’t even wear a crucifix due to vibrational mismatch.
“God helps those who help themselves.” In other words, God doesn’t help those who don’t help themselves? No, that’s not true. The point of life is to die; and God helps everyone do that. For sure, the best moment of our life is when it ends, for at death we rise into Heaven with absolute doubtlessness. This is why death should be celebrated. People who mourn death are simply doubting God’s plan.
There was nothing wrong with your father, Shari. Those familial relationships were not a one-way street. Can you imagine disinviting family to a wedding over some words? Why pin that on your father? I can think of few things more dishonorable than disinviting your own grandfather to your wedding in that fashion - and that’s how I know your story is inaccurate. Without knowing these people personally, I’d say your father was turning the other cheek by accepting these actions as God-blessed. Indeed, they were.
I have personal experience with this. My grandmother turned to Jesus in her final years, and it rubbed me the wrong way when I was 15. She would send me religious items and would ask me to write letters to her. I never wrote a single letter because I believed she didn’t really care. I could sense the inauthenticity and insanity; hence why she spurned my mother in her will. Truth is, there was a vibrational mismatch between me and my grandmother.
So, I don’t think it was just your father’s words that led to family issues. He was disinvited to the wedding because his grandson could sense the sickness. If you knew a relative had a seriously infectious disease, would you still invite him to the biggest day of your life? Therefore, nobody here is at fault.
You’re mischaracterizing the reason for your father’s relationship issues. Yes, he seems to have been infected with the Jesus bug. I would presume that it’s this illness that pushed people away rather than some conscious language that he should have assumed personal responsibility over. One of the challenges in life is stepping back and accepting that God sometimes wants people to push others away. In your situation, God wanted your father to hear your words and to prioritize you over religion.
Truth is, there is nothing wrong with any of us. Your family members didn’t uninvite your father to a wedding. God did. Yes, everything we do is controlled by God. There is no free-will. For some blessed reason, your father was supposed to be treated the way he was by your family - and that reason cannot be known because of divine ignorance.
So, I agree that the Jesus worship is a sign of mental illness. It’s insane to worship a man as if he’s more a man. It’s also self-limiting to presume we are less than Jesus. We are on the same level. At the same time, it’s all good because it’s all God. We always have God at our back. Always.
I keep my faith pretty private and within my heart. Coffee with Jesus in the morning. Without the coffee in the evening. Have never believed in proselytizing although there are many who believe we should spread the word. It bugs me as does organized religion. Though I suspect if religion wasn't organized a lot less people would know about God and faith. God helps those who help themselves? Yes. Never give up on God and never give up on yourself. Your father loved you, Shari. He was excited about something and wanted to introduce it to someone he loved. But loved you enough to realize you were very strong already. That's all a father can hope for with his children - that they be strong, and happy. There are no atheists in foxholes and sooner or later, most of us realize that on our own.
Yep, he sure did. AND, he’d said to me several times (as a young woman), “I respect and admire the woman you’ve become.” I didn‘t need or crave this from my dad at that point in my evolution. I’d already reached a growth and healing point within myself, that wasn’t dependent on a parent’s acceptance or love~ but it felt rather lovely to get the confirmation. :~)
I mean, how many of us EVER get this from a parent during the course of our life?!
I gave got this twice from my dad as well - “I am proud of you” he wrote on my birthday cards this year and the previous year. It felt so utterly sweet, esp. having in mind the turbulent journey we have shared for the last 47 years. PS. I like the way you worded this, Shari - scapegoating Christ. This is so spot on! Thank you.
Thanks. Re your dad, better late than never, I always say!
Absolutely! My dad has actually always supported me. He's the one who boosted my self-esteem in all ways possible. It's just his own issues (and those of my mom) that had a negative effect on us kids as we grew up. However, there was always my dad's actual verbalizing of how intelligent and competent me and my brother were - that made us who we are today, for the most part.
The fact that somehow life was created on a barren planet is a mystery. It does seem to be the result of God's work. We have evolved from bacteria to self conscious human beings. Now that is truly remarkable.
“I couldn’t share any sort of life experience with my dad (like the joy I always felt while perusing hardware stores) without him seizing what he saw as an opportunity to preach about Christ. Every time he did this to me, I felt distanced from him.“
This is due to a vibrational mismatch. Your father was infected by Christian insanity. Christians have convinced themselves that Jesus was divine, resulting in false idolatry. Comically, the son OF God is not God; and yet, they act as if he is. This tactic works sufficiently like a flickering lamp light. The connection is weak, but it’s analogous. You’ll get some light - and that’s why many Christians live decent lives.
The stronger connection is in ditching Jesus worship and instead focusing on God. What the Christians don’t realize is that by pretending some dork was more than human, they are doubting God. They think God is so powerless that a man had to be sent to Earth to die for our “sins”. No. There are no sins.
Think of it. Jesus thought he was divine (Cluster A Schizotypal) and willingly walked a bloody cross up a hill to his death while his mother cried nearby (Cluster A Schizoid). He didn’t even put up a fight. Fact is, if you’re at the point where you’re calling yourself a special human worthy of being a cult leader at the immature age of 33, refusing to put up a fight for your life, lacking compassion for your own mom, well, you’re beyond delusional.
Yes, Jesus was severely mentally ill - maybe because he didn’t have a father. Of course, all people are sons & daughters of God; and smart, healthy people don’t wear a crucifix of some diseased dude from 2,000 years ago. Healthy people can’t even wear a crucifix due to vibrational mismatch.
“God helps those who help themselves.” In other words, God doesn’t help those who don’t help themselves? No, that’s not true. The point of life is to die; and God helps everyone do that. For sure, the best moment of our life is when it ends, for at death we rise into Heaven with absolute doubtlessness. This is why death should be celebrated. People who mourn death are simply doubting God’s plan.
There was nothing wrong with your father, Shari. Those familial relationships were not a one-way street. Can you imagine disinviting family to a wedding over some words? Why pin that on your father? I can think of few things more dishonorable than disinviting your own grandfather to your wedding in that fashion - and that’s how I know your story is inaccurate. Without knowing these people personally, I’d say your father was turning the other cheek by accepting these actions as God-blessed. Indeed, they were.
I have personal experience with this. My grandmother turned to Jesus in her final years, and it rubbed me the wrong way when I was 15. She would send me religious items and would ask me to write letters to her. I never wrote a single letter because I believed she didn’t really care. I could sense the inauthenticity and insanity; hence why she spurned my mother in her will. Truth is, there was a vibrational mismatch between me and my grandmother.
So, I don’t think it was just your father’s words that led to family issues. He was disinvited to the wedding because his grandson could sense the sickness. If you knew a relative had a seriously infectious disease, would you still invite him to the biggest day of your life? Therefore, nobody here is at fault.
You’re mischaracterizing the reason for your father’s relationship issues. Yes, he seems to have been infected with the Jesus bug. I would presume that it’s this illness that pushed people away rather than some conscious language that he should have assumed personal responsibility over. One of the challenges in life is stepping back and accepting that God sometimes wants people to push others away. In your situation, God wanted your father to hear your words and to prioritize you over religion.
Truth is, there is nothing wrong with any of us. Your family members didn’t uninvite your father to a wedding. God did. Yes, everything we do is controlled by God. There is no free-will. For some blessed reason, your father was supposed to be treated the way he was by your family - and that reason cannot be known because of divine ignorance.
So, I agree that the Jesus worship is a sign of mental illness. It’s insane to worship a man as if he’s more a man. It’s also self-limiting to presume we are less than Jesus. We are on the same level. At the same time, it’s all good because it’s all God. We always have God at our back. Always.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA. Thanks for the laughs, dear.
That’ll be $200.